Julie

[webmaster]

A bit of fun - and a great song from Doris.

[Jas1]

I really liked that Bryan. Thank you.

[webmaster]

Thanks Jas. I feel I'd really like to rediscover this film - it would be great to watch a good print on a cinema screen with some other fans.

Maybe I'm too suggestible but I became more curious about it having read David Kaufman's comment that he thought it was a great film noir. I've been watching some film noir recently, "Murder My Sweet", "The Lady From Shanghi" and a couple of documentaries. A number of my friends are getting into it as well and we're planning to watch some - although we've already been to the NFT (National Film Theatre) in London to see Hitchcock's "The Lady Vanishes" and "Sabotage", which I had to leave as it was making me too tense (must have been feeling that way anyway) . It's a nice break from the modern world,



Below is a great site for old films, including noir ('dark films', Megan, attempting to show a side of life not normally seen on the screen in this way, murder, betrayal, crime, desperation, in stark black and white. There's usually a 'dame', often a beautiful blonde, who wraps the hero around her fingers and takes him to the cleaners).

Also on there:


http://onlyoldmovies.blogspot.com/search?q=doris+day

You can also download them - I'm stating that as a fact, not as a suggestion.


So I've been thinking about "Julie" in those terms - I think "Storm Warning" could also fit into this category.



http://dorisday.net/blog/?page_id=70

[BabeWilliams]

Bryan, I love how you know when I'm not going to understand something! Thank you for explaining, I didn't know what noir meant. I'll have to check some of those out. Thanks for the information Bryan!

[John M]

Bryan, I love Sabotage. One of my favorite early Hitchcocks. The bus scene is an absolute classic.

[webmaster]

Actually John, I got "Notorious" confused with "Sabotage"
Haven't seen Sabotage yet but will look out for the bus scene when I do!


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0028212/

[Johnny]

It would be great to see, Storm Warning, Young Man With a Horn, Love Me Or Leave Me, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Julie, and Midnight Lace presented as a drama festival on the big screen to honour the dramatic acting talents of Doris Day. She was truly under appreciated for these talents.

Johnny

[Jas1]

That would be nice Johnny.

Bryan - I LOVE film noir, very much. I wrote piece a while ago about the depiction of homosexuality in this genre at a time when it was virtually ignored/ banned from all other genres of film, try the nuances in Maltese Falcon and GILDA if you don't know what I mean!

[John M]

Bryan, that's too funny about Notorious. That's not too shabby a film, either. Definitely check out Sabotage sometime. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on it. And I love that poster!

Johnny, that would be wonderful.

Jas, that's a great topic for a piece. Noir is definitely a fascinating glimpse into the "taboo" human psyche of the times.

[webmaster]

Here's a taste of "Julie" - this is dedicated to Doris Martin.
In my YouTube comment I said "

"A great film noir." - David Kaufman.
An Arwin-MGM film - still awating DVD Release. Come on Warners, there's a market out there.

I wonder if Arwin need to give permission or somethng? Anyone know?



(A few jumpy cuts - it's a jumpy film.)

[webmaster]

Yes, we should set up a film noir topic. I found a copy of "Sabotage", John, I'll put it on my list of films to watch.

Did anyone check out this great old movies website, including loads of film noir?:

http://onlyoldmovies.blogspot.com/

[ray]

Would the 1961 film, Victim with Dirk Bogarde and Sylvia Syms be a noir ?

[webmaster]

Interesting question, Ray, but I don't think so. "Victim" was more of a 'social message' film about gay blackmail in the UK at a time when being gay was illegal - the law was only changed in 1967, I believe.

Wikipedia: "Victim is a 1961 British film directed by Basil Dearden, starring Dirk Bogarde and Sylvia Syms. It is notable in film history for being the first English language film to use the word "homosexual". On its release in Britain it proved highly controversial and in America it was initially banned."

Amazon: "What many don't realize is that this movie is credited with helping to decriminalize homosexuality in Britain. When "Victim" was released, it started a nationwide discussion about homosexuality and associated blackmail. At the time, approximately 90% of all blackmail cases involved homosexuals, and Bogarde's character was a classic example of a blackmail "victim". The point of the movie wasn't that all homosexuals were victims, but they could only be victims so long as the law permitted it. The blackmail wasn't merely because they were homosexual, but due to the harsh prison sentences a homosexual could (and often did) receive. How often does a movie get the opportunity to help create such a profound change in society?"

We do have at least one famous British film noir, Peggy Cummings in "Gun Crazy":



Top 5 Actresses in Classic Film Noir
http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Top_5_Actresses_in_Classic_Film_Noir/190/9119/1/ShowPost.aspx

[suzie]

Was Julie a box office success ? I loved the movie...It was a bit corny in a few places but I did like it alot . As I have mentioned on here before even the great Hitchcock movies were a bit corny. Just wondering if Julie was a box office hit ???

[mikeydv]

Hey Suzie...nice to see you. I have missed you on the forum.
JULIE was a mild box office hit, but the song was nominated for an Academy Award.

[suzie]

Hi, mikey ... I have been so busy at work that I havnt had much time for anything lol. Thanks for the info on "Julie ". I hear you are doing wonderful on the radio show. I will call in when I get the chance. I think its wonderful that we can all celebrate Do Dos birthday with you on the radio. Keep up the good work ...Love it !!!

[webmaster]

Hi Suzie

According to Paul Brogan, “Julie” – Box Office Gross (USA) -was $2,800,000, so if you add video sales since, plus hopefully DVD sales, I'm sure it made a profit and will continue to.

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[Ken]

For those who haven't seen "Julie" it will be shown on TCM Saturday March 27th from midnight to 2 AM.Eastern standard time.

[suzie]

Thank you Bryan and Mike and Paul. Do any of you know how much Julie cost to make ? It is so wonderful that in the movie and music business that your product just keeps on making money....even after all these years.

[littlepinetree]

Thanks for the great news Ken! So nice it will be on TV for people who have never seen it!
I have it on an old VHS tape and really enjoy it. I just wish it will come out on DVD with some others that are not on DVD yet.

[puck]

here are some more image I have colored them, and create a wallpaper, they ain't prefect, because the picture were so good.

http://i48.tinypic.com/m7dw9h.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/20jl5q1.jpg

[webmaster]

Thanks Puck - but I've got a better copy of that image - I used it as a banner ages ago - might be an idea to do a new version.

[puck]

I did't know that, that you made a banner of this picture,before my time as member, please use the idea.

[Summersun]

I loved the Julie banners of the forum. I think that if the movie had been in color it might of had a bigger success in the box office. We would have been able to enjoy that marvelous landscape and those sparkling eyes of Ms. Day.
Christie

[webmaster]

Thanks for comments about "Julie" banners - they were quite cool, weren't they?
I've posted them below along with recent banners in case people want to have copies:
http://www.dorisday.net/forum-banners.html

[Summersun]

Thanks for comments about "Julie" banners - they were quite cool, weren't they?
I've posted them below along with recent banners in case people want to have copies:
http://www.dorisday.net/forum-banners.html

Very cool!!!!!!!
Oh, thanks. It seems I missed a couple banners!

[puck]

I'm agree with you Summersun, it's very cool !!! Great idea Bryan to put them in a special section, love it !! Thank you.

[puck]

a another picture to share.
http://i33.tinypic.com/2wnsrnm.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/68bzis.jpg

[howard]

GREAT job, Puck. Thanks.

[webmaster]

Yes, great Puck - although Doris looks like she's got a slight touch of hay-fever in that photo! Still great, though! Thanks.