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Bryan, I'm sure every forum member would agree that you're the web host par excellence. This site is second to none in being both informative and entertaining. Thanks!

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Agree with all said- and back to normal view [for me]!

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Thank you all most kindly. It's your enthusiasm and commitment that motivates me. I think we've created a safe and enjoyable place that is always fun and interesting. Of course, Doris and our experience of being a fan of her is the glue that keeps us together, but we seem to also be able to share other things so it's like having extra friends as well. 8) Thanks again.
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THE WINNING TEAM - 1952

I haven't seen this film and hope those who have will share their thoughts.

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The movie was loosely based on the life of professional baseball pitcher Grover Cleveland Alexander. It appears the screenplay took some liberties by emphasizing the positive influence his wife had on his career and neglecting the less flattering aspects of his life. There was no mention of his eventual slide into alcoholism and poverty after the marriage ended.

WB was probably banking on the star duo of Day and Reagan to make this a success at the box-office and they did not want to make a downbeat film. Instead, they gave audiences the typical Hollywood happy ending, which was not the case in Alexander's real life. I found it interesting that his wife was a consultant on the film. One can only assume that she agreed with the decision to omit the troubling aspects of her husband's life.

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On a positive note, "New York Times" film critic Bosley Crowther praised Doris and Reagan for "putting so much yearning and burning into their roles."

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It takes a little while for the new banner (The Winning Team) to show sometimes.

I think I may have seen this on TV but I really can't remember much about it.

Apparently, he was an alcoholic as Michael said, and the film bore little relationship to the real story:

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Hopefully, this won't embarrass you Bryan but you are the glue that holds it all together. As Judy mentioned, you're an excellent webmaster and you set the respectful tone that makes it the safe place you described so well. That is not easy to do, but you do it without fuss or a speck of drama. I love the feeling of family that has evolved over the years. It is rare indeed.

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Steady on, Michael! This could all go to my head! It's a funny thing about praise, sometimes you feel you deserve it and don't get it. Other times, you get it and feel you don't deserve it!

But I appreciate your kind comments and I understand what you are saying about the family feeling - we are all close even though separated by great distances in most cases. I think our group has many talents, some obvious, some more subtle but equally important. We compliment one another and perhaps we share some of those DD values of friendliness, wanting to be creative, upbeat (although life doesn't always allow you to be). That kind of stuff anyway!

Now, what were we saying about The Winning Team? Has anyone seen it?!!
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I saw The Winning Team in the past year. It is another film that would have benefited from being shot in colour. It is a fictionalized period biography about baseball hero Grover Cleveland Alexander and his challenges.

The reviews praised Doris' performance but were not as kind to Ronald Reagan. I thought Reagan was too old for the part. Some real-life baseball players were in the film.

My fondest memory of The Winning Team is Doris singing Ol' Saint Nicholas.
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The total number of individuals who rated ( not voted) the 39 films of Doris Day as AVERAGE is 302.
The total number of individuals ranking all 39 films of Doris Days in all categories, (Excellent -Good - Average - Poor) is 2564.

The rankings are as follows:

Where Were You When The Lights. - 24 - 48%
Went Out
Starlift -14 - 48%
The West Point Story. -17 - 45%
The Winning Team. -16 - 40%
The Tunnel Of Love. -19 - 38%
The Ballad Of Josie. -16 - 36%
Lucky Me. -18 - 33%
Caprice. -21 - 30%
April In Paris. -15 -30%
It's A Great Feeling - 10-28%
Do Not Disturb. -14 - 25%
Julie. -12 - 21%
That Touch Of Mink. -12 -16%
Storm Warning. -8 - 16%
Young Man With A Horn. -6 - 14%
On Moonlight Bay. -5 - 11%
The Pajama Game. -8 - 10%
By The Light Of The Silvery Moon - 6 - 10%
It Happened To Jane. - 5 - 8%
Billy Rose's Jumbo. -5 - 8%
Tea For Two. -4 -8%
Young At Heart - 5 - 7%
With Six You Get Eggroll. -4 - 7%
Send Me No Flowers. -4 - 6%
Move Over Darling -4 - 6%
Midnight Lace. -4 - 5%
Lullaby Of Broadway - 3 - 5%
The Thrill Of It All. -3 -4%
Romance On The High Seas. -2 -3%
The Glass Bottom Boat -2 -3%
I'll See You In My Dreams. -1 -2%
Lover Come Back. -1 - 1%
The Man Who Knew Too Much B. - 1 -1%
Calamity Jane - 0 -0%
Teacher's Pet. - 0 - 0%
Love Me Or Leave Me. - 0 - 0%
Pillow Talk. - 0 - 0%

There are some interesting average rankings in the bottom half, in particular, That Touch Of Mink and Storm Warning.

The poor rankings have been calculated and I will post them soon.
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Interesting, indeed. The "average" ratings for Pajama Game surprised me the most. I wonder why those folks didn't rank it higher.

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Interesting, indeed. The "average" ratings for Pajama Game surprised me the most. I wonder why those folks didn't rank it higher.
PG has never gotten the love it deserves. I showed it to some friends once and they admired the performances, but thought the film dated and uninteresting. To me, it represents one of Doris' crowning achievements. The character of Babe Williams fit her to a tee, i.e., sexy and assertive, and she blended beautifully with the Broadway cast. This was another overlooked performance in my opinion.

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Couldn't agree with you more there, Michael.

Having some technical issue with changing the banner so I think we'll just carry on with the films for now.
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April In Paris - 1952

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I'm hoping others on the board with help me make-up my mind about this one.

On one hand, Doris had a fun, carefree character to play and she was in top form vocally. Her version of the title song beats all others. Her dancing was graceful and her bubbly enthusiasm was contagious. But I was never able to embrace this film for two reasons: the silly plot and the casting of Ray Bolger as her leading man. I could not picture them together at all. They had no chemistry and I didn't believe for a second that Doris would be attracted to him. Were Gordon MacRae, Jimmy Cagney and Gene Nelson busy?

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It's not one of her top musicals but I've always enjoyed it. The songs are fun; That's What Makes Paris, Paree, and April in Paris being two favourites. I quite liked the plot, easy to follow! And the part where Doris slapped Marcia (Bolger's fiance) was hilarious. I remember editing it out and putting it on a loop!
I think it's hard now, 65 years on, to appreciate how it was at the time and apparently made to satisfy Doris' growing number of fans.

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Tension rises between Ethel and Marcia (Eve Miller), the daughter of Putnam’s boss and his secret fiancé.

I think Ralph McKnight expresses it well in his review:
There is simply nothing wrong with this fluffy musical. It is a delight, mainly because of Day’s screen presence. That could make any film more interesting, and it certainly works here. No matter what film, she is mesmerizing to watch. And what a performer! She has a glorious voice and is a graceful dancer. The cinematography by Wilfred M Cline is right on target, and the staging by Leroy Prinz is among his best work. I seem to remember Day and Bolger dancing a ballet, but I think it was cut out in later printings.
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April In Paris was a hit with 1952 audiences. It ranked 24th in domestic box office revenue. A lot of the credit for the success of April In Paris must go to Doris Day's talent.

I agree with Michael's reservations about the mediocre plot and the casting of Ray Bolger. If Gene Nelson had put on a pair of glasses, he would have been the perfect leading man for Doris in April In Paris.

Doris' character, Ethel Dynamite Jackson is funny, confident, brash as well as vulnerable. She is similar to Georgia Garrett in Romance On The High Seas and also similar to Calamity Jane. They all have dreams they want to come true.

There is a lot to like about April In Paris, the songs, dancing, cinematography and of course Doris. I enjoy this film for what it is, pleasant entertainment with occasional moments of beauty. Watch it in January or February and it will make you yearn for spring.
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I was amused to read the actress they were looking for in the film was Ethel Barrymore and got Ethel "Dynamite" Jackson instead! :) I must have missed that.

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LOVE the hi res close-up of her from AIP. That is a gorgeous shot.

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Cheers, Michael - she does look great there, doesn't she? 8)
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The total number of individuals who gave a POOR rating to some of the 39 films of Doris Day =72

The total number of individuals who rated all the films of Doris Day using the ratings excellent, good, average, poor = 2564

The breakdown is as follows:

The Tunnel Of Love. 11 - 22%
Where Were You When The Lights
Went Out. 9 - 18%
Caprice. 11 - 16%
The Ballad Of Josie. 7 - 16%
April In Paris. 4 - 8%
Do Not Disturb. 4 - 8%
It's A Great Feeling. 2 - 6%
Love Me Or Leave Me. 4 - 5%
Lucky Me. 2 - 4%
That Touch Of Mink. 2 - 3%
Billy Rose's Jumbo. 2 - 3%
The West Point Story. 1 - 3%
The Winning Team. 1 - 3%
Starlift. 1 - 3%Julie. 1 - 2%
Tea For Two. 1 - 2%
Young Man With A Horn. 1 - 2%
With Six You Get Eggroll. 1 - 2%
Young At Heart. 1 - 1%
The Pajama Game. 1 - 1%
Calamity Jane. 1 - 1%
The Thrill Of It All. 1 - 1%
Send Me No Flowers. 1- 1%
Move Over Darling. 1 - 1%
Midnight Lace. 1 - 1%
Romance On The High Seas. 0%
It Happened To Jane. 0%
The Man Who Knew Too Much. 0%
Teacher's Pet. 0%
I'll See You In My Dreams 0%
By The Light Of The Silvery Moon. 0%
Storm Warning. 0%Pillow Talk. 0%
On Moonlight Bay. 0%
Lullaby Of Broadway 0%
My Dream Is Yours. 0%
The Glass Bottom Boat. 0%
Please Don't Eat The Daisies 0%
Lover Come Back. 0%

The major surprise for me was the Love Me Or Leave Me poor ratings. It is no surprise that 14 of Doris Day's 39 films had a 0 poor ranking.
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I don't really understand these interpretations, Johhny. They seem to defy logic. As we were going through the poll I used, there were a few surprises but, I think, general acceptance if not agreement.

The ratings you just posted put most of the ones rejected in the poll we used at the top:

The Tunnel Of Love. 11 - 22%
Where Were You When The Lights Went Out. 9 - 18%
Caprice. 11 - 16%
The Ballad Of Josie. 7 - 16%
April In Paris. 4 - 8%
Do Not Disturb. 4 - 8%
It's A Great Feeling. 2 - 6%

Am I missing something?

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Another beautiful, sophisticated looking Doris banner. I love the sky blue border that intensifies and brightens the black and white photo.
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Bryan, I did not verify the Films Of Doris Day ratings numbers. They are organized on the list from highest to lowest percentages using the numbers posted for each film and rating categories.

It made me wonder why the individuals used a poor rating, especially with Love Me Or Leave Me. It was a surprise.

The poor ratings category is probably the most interesting since it challenges our love of Doris Day films. This category may stimulate some conversations.
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This is what I see, Johnny:

How do you rate "Love Me or Leave Me"?
Excellent: 66, 89%
Good: 4, 5%
Poor: 4, 5%
Total votes: 74

No one voted it Average and I suspect the 4 poor votes were from people who couldn't accept her in that role.

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Thanks Bryan!

Those are the numbers I see as well.
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Oh, I think I see, the list you just published was the proportion of poor 'votes'?

But the film still got 66 excellent votes - that's not too bad. Should have been more, of course!
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