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Thank you Bryan for the insightful Sheila O' Malley TCM Diary article on Love Me or Leave Me.

I am really taken by the vivid description of Cagney's character's Marty, whose large shadow covered the wall as he entered the club.

The Love Me or Leave Me muted colour banner is so interesting with the smile on Cagney's face and the intense look on Doris' face as they look at Robert Keith (who played Doris' father in Young At Heart.)
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Another striking LMOLM banner.

I also enjoyed Shelia O'Malley's review. LMOLM has aged well thanks in large part to the stellar performances by Doris and Cagney. This film is a 18K gold classic.

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Thanks, Johnny and Michael. Yes, that is a great review by Shelia O'Malley who highlights the unfairness of Doris being ignored by Hollywood in spite of her giving an outstanding performance. As she also says in the article, "While James Cagney and Doris Day both give tour de force performances, it’s a career best for Day."
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When I first read O'Malley's comment about LMOLM being her career best, I was taken aback. Immediately, I thought, no, because I've always considered her dramatic turn in The Man Who Knew Too Much as her best performance. Then I quickly realized that O'Malley was right.

Doris had to navigate the many contradictions that defined Ruth Etting: her driving ambition, cunning and ruthlessness on one hand and her basic decency and likability on the other. She also faced the daunting challenge of playing a famous person, someone whose songs were probably familiar to audiences in the 1950's. Doris wove all these complexities into a seamless performance. Her singing was never better and she paid tribute to Etting's vocal style in way that brought out the very best qualities of her own singing skills. Although Jo McKenna is a fascinating and complex character, Ruth Etting was the most demanding role that Doris ever played and she did it beautifully. You never saw the work that went into the performance.

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Michael, I think yours is a superb summary of Doris's work in this film. Thank you!

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Agree with you there, Judy. Michael can always be relied on for an insightful point of view. 8)

I'll start I'll See You In My Dreams on Monday.


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What are you laughing at, you big ape?


What caption can you come up with for the scene above? :)
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Listen Gimp, I'm what makes you tick! And don't you ever forget it!!

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Marty, is there something I should know about you and Georgie?

Let me put it this way: I’ll Never Stop Loving You is not about you.
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Fabulous banner.

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Bryan, Doris Day Captions is a fun idea that can be a new topic.

Excuse me gentlemen, but shouldn't you be directing this conversation to your meal ticket sitting here at the table?

This Love Me or Leave Me banner is spectacular and serves well the grandeur of the film.
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Thanks all - will think about a caption topic. Johnny. New film time:

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Doris Day and Danny Thomas in I'll See You in My Dreams.

"When I’ll See You in My Dreams was released at Radio City Music Hall in New York in late 1951, it toppled that theater’s opening week box office records that had stood for 20 years. Almost four decades later, Danny Thomas made one of his last public appearances on a TV talk show to promote his autobiography, Make Room for Danny. He became rather pensive and struggled to hold back tears when the film was mentioned. Thomas said, “The best thing I’ve ever done – and with Doris Day!”

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Danny and Doris as Gus and Grace Kahn with their two children.

"The film depicted the career of Gus Kahn, lyricist of more than 300 songs, a number of which are now considered to be standards in American musical history. Thomas, then a popular nightclub and radio performer and occasional movie actor, portrayed Kahn. Doris Day – who got top billing – portrayed Kahn’s wife, Grace. To contribute to the film’s accuracy, Warner Bros. used the real Grace Kahn as an advisor on the movie."
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Doris Day sings "I'll See You In My Dreams" as Danny Thomas composes.
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I'll See You All In My Dreams…

Thanks for another great banner, and a nice musical film too…

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Thank you Bryan for the wonderful I'll See You In My Dreams banner and the excellent background information. Doris and Danny Thomas had great screen chemistry in this film.

I'll See You In My Dreams is an authentic film with a great story. I think Doris looks beautiful in the film and ages well.

Doris starred in a total of nine period films out of the thirty nine films she made. It has often been said that Doris always has a contemporary look in all her films. Looking at Doris in I'll See You In My Dreams, the Moon films, Love Me or Leave Me and Billy Rose's Jumbo, she simply looks like a beautiful women in a different period of time. She is such s naturally talented actress that I believe she could do almost any role with the help of Hollywood magic.
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I'm not going to be much help because I've haven't seen it. Although I started watching it a a few times, I never got beyond the first few scenes. The pacing seemed slow, Curtiz' direction was dull, and from what little I recall, Doris' character was a doormat who allowed Kahn / Thomas to take her for granted. This may have been an accurate portrayal of the Kahn marriage but Doris is far more effective when her characters have backbone.

This and Tunnel Of Love are the two Doris films I cannot sit through.

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Bryan, what a fantastic banner, is simply amazing!


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A few tidbits about the film from Wikipedia and IMDB:

It was a huge box-office hit for WB. Per Wiki: "'ll See You in My Dreams" was a big hit, Warner Brothers' second-highest-grossing film of 1952.

The film's success prompted Curtiz and Thomas to reunite the following year on a remake of Al Jolson's The Jazz Singer.

One of Gus Kahn's most popular songs would become the title of one of Doris Day's biggest hit movies four years later - Love Me or Leave Me (1955).

This biopic of lyricist Gus Kahn is told from the point of view of his widow Grace who was still alive at the time of filming. Kahn himself had died 10 years earlier.

Doris Day and Danny Thomas recorded a Columbia 10-inch LP featuring eight film songs which climbed to number one on the "Billboard" pop albums chart.

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Thanks, Peter, Johnny, Ania & Michael. :)

Michael, I'm a bit like you, I saw it once but it was so long ago that I don't remember much about it.

I'll have to catch up. If anyone else wants to see it, it will be on my Google Drive for a while:

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Off topic, but I noticed a number of recent articles about Lady GaGa and her crossover success in the new film version of A Star Is Born. Each article included Doris Day among the select group of female recording / musical stars who achieved major film stardom. Of course, Streisand, Garland, Midler, Cher and a few others were mentioned but few of them had Doris's enduring success at the box-office. Streisand was a huge draw in the late sixties to mid-seventies, but her film career was spotty after she directed and starred in Yentl (1983).

Time will tell if Gaga will be able to launch a successful and influential career in films.


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You got me there, Michael! I like Poker Face by Lady Gaga but I've become terribly old-fashioned and pretend not to know about these things. :) I tend to think the days of stars like Doris and Co are over. Although you can only judge these things in retrospect. I'm still a fan of many of today's stars, Meryl Streep and Tom Hanks on your side of the pond. Julie Christie and Daniel Craig over here.
Anyway, do me a favor and try and watch I'll See You in My Dreams over the next few days and I will too. This applies to everyone. If you can get past the first 20 minutes you'll know if you can continue, I find.

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"When Danny Thomas sings to Doris Day at her maternity bedside in the film, Doris got very emotional thinking about how her first husband, Al Jordan was not present when her son Terry was born, she wrote in her autobiography, Doris Day: Her Own Story. “In the way that Danny played the scene, there was a sense of his remorse in having not been with me when the baby came (in the movie. His character was writing a song and lost track of time.),” she wrote. “When Danny started his song, I couldn’t help but cry, for what came to mind was the birth of my own baby, how Al Jorden had not been with me, and how alone and unfulfilled I felt,"
https://cometoverhollywood.com/2014/02/ ... eams-1951/


Doris Day - The One I Love Belongs To Somebody Else - from I'll See You In My Dreams.

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I always love to read the background information surrounding the making of a film, especially the casting choices. James Robertson's article is fascinating. I was surprised to see Gordon McRae was the first choice to play Gus Khan. Danny Thomas has the everyman appeal that enhanced the role.

Thank you Bryan.

Regarding comments on actors from the past and present, I enjoy talent from any era. Current and senior British and European actors that really impress me are Carey Mulligan, Julie Christie, Michael Fassbender, Colin Farrell, James McAvoy, Idris Elba, Helen Mirren, Daniel Craig, Kiera Knightly, Maggie Smith and Emily Blunt. I must include the dazzling Cate Blanchet from Australia.


American and Canadian actors that impress are James Stewart, Clark Gable. Susan Hayward, Gene Tierney, Rita Hayworth, Glenn Ford, Jean Harlow, Myrna Loy, Meryl Streep, Marilyn Monroe, Jennifer Lawrence, Brad Pitt, Emma Stone, Ryan Gosling, Gregory Peck, Audrey Hepburn, Charlie Theron, Cher and of course Doris Day.

I agree Lady Gaga star power in films remains to be seen. Her songs Bad Romance, Born This Way, I'll Never Love Again, and her album with Tony Bennett are extraordinary and enduring.

Few actors have the multiple skills of a dramatic and comedic actor, gifted singer and dancer as well as a charismatic personality like Doris Day. It is Doris Day's broad appeal to both women and men that has created an enduring legacy.
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Great response as always, Johnny. But what I want to know from you, and everyone else is, have you seen the film recently and what do you think of it now?

https://tinyurl.com/doris-day-see-you-in-my-dreams

PS Could someone go around to Judy's (Musiclover's) house and help fix her computer as I'll See You in My Dreams was her choice. :)
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Michael, I just watched the first five minutes and thought it was really enchanting - Doris is so assertive and charming! - will catch up with it over the weekend. 8)
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On the set:

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Grace Kahn straightens Doris' tie while a makeup man touches up the blackface makeup as she gets to entertain the troops in I’ll See You in My Dreams.

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Doris Day and Grace Kahn, who was also a musician and composer in her own right.

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The family of the film's producer Louis F. Edelman (1900–1976) - from daughter Kate Edelman Johnson, who captioned the photo: A lovely picture of me, my sister, my mother and the iconic Doris Day on the set of my dad’s picture I’ll See You in My Dreams.

You can also watch the film here: https://ok.ru/video/325643340451.
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I saw I'll See You In My Dreams last August and watched it again today.
I love the opening 1908 scene in the music publishing office between Danny Thomas and Doris. There is an instant comic chemistry between the brash Khan and confident Grace LeBoy..
I also love the scene when Khan arrives at Grace's home and she makes him put on her father's tie before dinner and then it ends up in his soup.

The scene where Mary Wickes asks what happened to the Khan's last maid and Gus replies, she married Jack the Ripper cracks me up every time.

As much as I love the comedic scenes, the dramatic scenes are jus as impressive. The scene where Patrice Wymore's character Gloria sings Love Me or Leave Me over the phone to Grace/Doris is fascinating to watch. Watching the scene in Gloria's dressing room as she describes how she made a play for Gus and Grace listens quietly is equally compelling.

The music in the film is a history lesson in popular music of the times and the skills of Gus Khan. One of my favorite scenes is Doris singing My Buddy to the troops.

The picture is told from the point of view of Grace Khan. She is the heart of the film.

The only criticism I have is Doris' confident character Grace not asserting herself in the film when Khan continually and disrespectfully blows his cigar smoke in her face.

I want to mention James Gleason who plays Feed Thompson. He never disappoints in giving a scene added dimension.

It would have been wise to edit the scene in which Doris wears blackface out of respect on the DVD release. It would not detract from the film.

Regarding Doris' appearance in the film, I love her girlish look in the early part of the film which is similar to her Moon films. I also love her look in the latter part of the film when she visits Gus in his hospital room.

Let's not forget the title song, I'll See You In My Dreams. Listening to Doris sing this song is a real treasure!

Doris Day and Danny Thomas are exceptional in this film. They both exude authenticity and heart.

Bryan, the I'll See You In My Dreams banner is bright and radiant which describes the film well. Thank you.
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That's a great review, Johnny - thank you.

I'm trying to find some space to watch it. I can definitely do it on Monday and your review makes me want to watch it more. It's so interesting that Grace Kahn was on the set advising Doris on, among other things, how she could play her, I assume, or at least advise on details as we know Doris played the part the way she thought best. I love the photo of them together with Doris giving her a big kiss! I think they might have had a lot in common as women who had to depend on themselves to make their way in the world,


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"Despite the fact that it formed a major film-starring debut for Danny Thomas, this Warner's musical about the life and times of popular lyricist Gus Kahn, surprisingly shot in black and white, leans heavily on the talents of Doris Day (playing Kahn's wife) for its effect. As well as selling such standards as Ain't We Got Fun, The One I Love Belongs to Somebody Else, I'll See You In My Dreams, Makin' Whoopee, Love Me or Leave Me and Pretty Baby, Doris Day's personality (and acting) gives the film a warmth it probably otherwise wouldn't possess."

Now that's the kind of review that does our girl credit!
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