Love Me or Leave Me

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Unread post by jmichael » 21 Feb 2018, 01:22

Here is a wonderful appreciation of this film by Shelia O’Malley for Film Comment.

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/tcm-diary-love-leave/

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Unread post by Johnny » 21 Feb 2018, 11:09

Thank you so much Michael for posting Sheila O'Malley's riveting, thoughtful and genuine appreciation for the film Love Me or Love Me.

It is the first time I have seen the words "tour de force" to describe the performances of James Cagney and Doris Day.

The background information on Ruth Etting demonstrates the authenticity of Doris' brilliant performance.

It is a pleasure and a surprise to see an in-depth genuine appreciation of many of the scenes in Love Me Or Leave Me. It is an historical film treasure.

Along with Doris Day, it appears director Charles Vidor was underappreciated. In 1955, Academy award nominations were NOT given to Love Me Or Leave Me for best picture, Charles Vidor for best director and Doris Day for best actress. James Cagney was nominated for best actor.

The omission of these nominations is outrageous considering in 1955 Love Is A Many Splendored Thing was nominated for best picture. Jennifer Jones was nominated for best actress for this picture. No disrespect is intended for the film or actress but looking back with an historical perspective, I would be interested in seeing what Sheila O'Malley would write about Love Is A Many Splendored Thing in comparison with Love Me Or Leave Me.

Interestingly, Charles Vidor's mesmerizing film Gilda is about an emotional love triangle as is Love Me or Leave Me. Rita Hayworth's musical numbers are as captivating as Doris'. Vidor is gifted in staging captivating scenes.

Reading Sheila O' Malley's commentary on Love Me or Leave Me is truly satisfying. The film and Doris deserved this kind of review in 1955.

Thanks again Michael!
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Unread post by Musiclover » 21 Feb 2018, 12:52

Michael, thanks for this link. Doris said in a much later interview that LMOLM might be the best film she ever made, and Cagney rated it in the top 5 of all his movies. I never get tired of watching this film, although some of the parallels in the Etting-Snyder and Day-Melcher stories are almost eerie.

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Unread post by jmichael » 21 Feb 2018, 15:30

I'm pleased you guys enjoyed this review as much as I did.

I loved how the writer referred to LMOLM as an overlooked classic that deserved more love and respect than it got when it was first released. It's mind boggling to think that the film, director, and leading actress were overlooked by the Oscars. After all, Doris did her own singing, unlike Susan Hayward in I'll Cry Tomorrow or Rita Hayworth in Gilda. Charles Vidor, although lacking the signature style of a Howard Hawks, George Stevens or Nicholas Ray, was a total pro who knew how to tell a story and how to showcase true star quality. Given the strict rules of the Hays Code at the time, the seamier aspects of Ruth Etting's live were glossed over, but the heart and soul of her struggle - the turbulent Marty Snyder and Ruth Etting relationship, came through vividly thanks to the first-rate performances and the screenplay. It was refreshing to watch Doris play a morally compromised individual, someone who was street smart, darker in temperament, and relentless in her drive to succeed. It's always difficult to name one favorite performance above all others, but this is my all-time favorite Doris Day performance.

And if anyone has ever sung a better version of Ten Cents A Dance, I'd love to know who it is.

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Unread post by Musiclover » 21 Feb 2018, 23:10

My sentiments exactly, Michael.

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Unread post by Jas1 » 22 Feb 2018, 09:01

Agree too Michael - and especially about Doris' 10 cents a dance- Chris Conor does a lovely jazz version "Live at the Village Gate" early 1960s- with verse- but Doris' version is the tops for me too.

Verse:
"I work at the palace ballroom, and that palace is cheap, when I get back to my chilly hall-room, I'm much too tired to sleep;
I'm one of those lady teachers, a beautiful hostess, you know...
One that the palace features, at exactly a dime a go...

10 cents a dance...

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Unread post by howard » 22 Feb 2018, 13:13

"Love Me or Leave Me" is being televised today (2/22/18) on TCM (USA) at 1:00 p.m. (EST) and 4:00 p.m. (PST). I never tire of watching this fabulous film!
Like Irene Dunne done.

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Unread post by Musiclover » 03 Mar 2018, 21:09

Just came across this observation about LMOLM from theatre and film historian Ken Bloom in his book Hollywood Musicals: "The film is hard hitting [and] as dramatic as any straight film. Lots of credit goes to Doris Day's no-holds-barred performance."

With LMOLM, Bloom also identifies Calamity Jane and Pajama Game in his list of the greatest film musicals of the 1950s. Although the book contains a glaring error about those films (that Doris had made only one film prior to Calamity Jane), there is much to like about it.

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Unread post by Johnny » 10 Jun 2018, 13:44

Some interesting background on Love Me or Leave Me is revealed in the chapter, "A Perfect Motion Picture" in David Kaufman 's book, Doris Day, The Untold Story of The Girl Next Door.

Producer Joe Pasternak said he had "to beg" Doris Day to do the film. "There was something in the picture that reminded her of something that she didn't want to be reminded of" said the producer. "We could never figure out what it was. But she did it and gave the finest performance of her career".

Originally the Ruth Etting role was offered to Ava Gardner and Jane Russell who turned it down. Jane Russell wanted to play Lillian Roth in I'll Cry Tomorrow which Susan Hayward eventually played. Jane Powell also auditioned for the role of Etting. George Cukor was to direct.

Doris was paid a $200,000 salary for her first picture with a studio other than Warner Brothers which reveals how big a star she had became by 1954.

During April 1952, plans for Love Me or Leave Me were put on hold while MGM awaited "approval from the principals in the Ruth Etting deal". In order to secure permission for their story, Snyder received $55,000 from MGM and Etting far more.

Cagney had been sent a copy of the script while he was making Mister Roberts on location in the South Pacific. "I took one red-through and said "My God, yes. We go with this one. There was nothing to be added and nothing to be taken away".

James Cagney said this about Doris Day, "That lack of guile" photographs.

The preproduction schedule for Love Me or Leave Me committed Day to forty-one "Work" and thirty-nine "Rehearse and Record" days, a sharp contrast with Cagney and his thirty-six "Work", days and no rehearsals. Rehearsals began on November 19-1954 and continued to December 4th when production began continuing through to February 8th.
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Unread post by Musiclover » 08 Jan 2019, 19:25

Just came across this brief comment from film critic-turned-director Francois Truffaut about Doris's performance in LMOLM: "She has great erotic presence." He didn't identify any specific scenes that he attached to that observation, however.

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Unread post by jmichael » 09 Jan 2019, 08:34

This film was a game changer and it holds up beautifully. While I will never be able to comprehend why the Academy overlooked her sizzling performance, LMOLM remains one of the best musical biographies ever made. You can watch it over and again and find something new to admire in the richly nuanced performances of Day and Cagney. Nice to learn that Truffaut admired her work too. Another great find by Judy. Thank you.

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Unread post by Johnny » 01 Jun 2019, 19:35

In the book The Doris Day Scrapbook by Alan Gleb, he writes: (partial excerpt of his review on Love Me or Leave Me):

"The part of Snyder was played by James Cagney, and it made all the difference. The part fit Cagney like a glove, and Love Me or Leave Me became one of the half-dozen or so films most closely associated with this great star. The intensity Cagney brings to this part makes Snyder both a believable and a tragic figure. We come to understand his obsession, and the terrifying lengths to which it leads him. By contrast with Cagney, whose force is volcanic, Doris might have faded off into the background. It is a great tribute to her that she can more than hold her own. But then again, she is an altogether new Doris Day. Our first glimpse of her, in a tight, sequined dress, singing "Ten Cents A Dance", is revelatory. There was always something appealing about her, but here she is intensely sexual. Indeed, it is the intense sexuality exuded in the Snyder-Etting relationship that elevates it from just some sort of perverse sado-masochistic pairing-off onto another, altogether persuasive emotional battleground. The two of them are driven people --she by her ambition, he by his consuming passion--but somehow, despite everything, they work together. What gives the story even more resonance is the disturbing fact that the Etting-Snyder relationship might be said to have similarities to the Day-Melcher relationship. Both had their destructive and constructive elements; both were played out to inevitable, unfortunate ends".
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"The picture was an unqualified smash. Cagney was up for an Oscar (Doris should have been), and the picture's grosses were spectacular. Among the money-makers from Love Me or Leave Me was Doris herself, who got $150,000 salary for the film as well as a 10 per cent cut of the gross. The prodigious success of the film persuaded M-G-M to sign Doris to a five film contract for just short of a million dollars, top money for that time. But beyond the financial success, Love Me or Leave Me stands out in the Doris Day filmography as the movie that really established her as a serious film actress".
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