With Six You Get Eggroll

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Johnny, this occurred to me about 2 of Alan Gelb's observations: First, this film was fiction, whereas "Yours, Mine and Ours" was based on a true story. Of course, liberties with the facts were taken -- but, still, I think that's a bit like comparing apples to oranges. Second, Doris was 6 years older than James Garner, 8 years older than Rod Taylor, and 9 years older than Stephen Boyd. I agree that Gelb's comment about the age difference with Richard Harris (8 1/2 years, I think) was unnecessary. The age factor with her aforesaid leading men had no effect on their films with Doris, in my view. (By the way, Gelb's book contains a number of factual errors.)

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I agree totally Musiclover. I found several errors but I also found insightful observations. I found the book worthwhile since the focus is on all of Doris' wonderful films.

It never occurred to me to think about the age of Doris in her films or any of her co-stars. One exception may be Ray Bolger in April in Paris, and that is in hind site.

I chose to share some of Gelb's observations, both positive and negative to generate a discussion on the forum. It is important to have different points of view.

Gelb's criticisms of Doris's films often are more harsh than they are complimentary with few exceptions.

I really appreciate all the comments from forum members that challenge Gelb's criticisms and show a genuine appreciation for Doris' work
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Gelb's book is somewhere in my basement but I haven't looked at it in years. I recall enjoying it when it was first published but as you both pointed out, it has some errors and I don't necessarily agree with everything he says about her films or her performances. His emphasis on the age gap between Doris and Richard Harris is sexist and unfair. No one blinked when Sean Connery romanced a much younger (28 years to be exact) Michelle Pfeiffer in The Russia House or when Sinatra chased after Jill. St. John and Raquel Welch in a couple of his later films. Sinatra was twenty five years older than St. John and Welch. I wonder if writers and columnists just need space to fill when they make a big deal about age differences.

Judy, thanks for doing the math on the age gaps between Doris and some of her other leading men. It proves that numbers are far less important than chemistry and acting ability. Certainly, Doris and Clark Gable demonstrated that when they made a charming couple in Teacher's Pet.

Eggroll stands on its own merits and it was successful at the box-office too. If it had to be her swan song in films, then I'm grateful she and Marty chose this enjoyable comedy.



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Great observations Michael.

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In David Kaufman's book on Doris, there are two interesting comments mentioned by Doris with reference to her film With Six You Get Eggroll:

"When Doris had lunch with major fan Paul Brogan and he told her he had seen With Six You Get Eggroll fifty-four times, she just stared at him, took his hand in hers, and said, "And you didn't get diabetes"? It was very deadpan" added Brogan.



When Brogan learned that Doris had never seen With Six You Get Eggroll, he was taken aback, and asked why.

Doris replied, "You know, I lived it every day on set for three months working on the picture for three months. So, what's the point?

I believe Paul is a member of this forum and if it is a misrepresentation of the situation, please let me know.

I find Doris' remarks are disarmingly honest and direct, much like her personality.

With Six You Get Eggroll is a charming salute to the 1960's. I love the fact that Doris' character is in charge of a construction company. It is añ endearing film.
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Maggie Smith recently said a similar thing about Downtoun Abbey - she hasn't watched an episode- yet!

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I certainly didn’t have the kind of longtime friendship that Paul had with Doris, but I can attest to the fact that she was direct. On the one and only phone conversation we had, the first thing she said after I introduced myself was: “Should I call you Michael or Mike?” She wanted to get it right and didn’t hesitate to ask. She had me in the palm of her hand from that moment on.

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Michael thank you for sharing your insightful story
on Doris. Doris's directness demonstrated respect and caring in asking how she should address you.
Doris' greatest gift was her emotional intelligence that allowed her to connect empathetically with both people and animals.

Doris' emotional connection to people was apparent in every song she sang and in every film she made.
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Michael that's great- did you get to speak to Doris after you did those other fabulous tributes from each Decade?

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Speaking of Michael's fabulous tributes, I wonder: Do you know if Doris has watched them?
Like Irene Dunne done.

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howard wrote:
26 Apr 2020, 12:42
Speaking of Michael's fabulous tributes, I wonder: Do you know if Doris has watched them?
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26 Apr 2020, 05:39

Michael that's great- did you get to speak to Doris after you did those other fabulous tributes from each Decade?
Hey guys,

Doris watched the 1950's video during her birthday celebration in 2015. The person who delivered it watched it with her and a small group of her friends. After the first twenty minutes or so, Doris asked them if they'd had enough. She was bored and was ready to turn it off. I always got a kick out of that. I suspect it embarrassed her or maybe it was lost on her. And I realized the videos were really for the fans, not Doris.

The person who shared this with me emphasized that Doris appreciated it and thought it was well done, but she was more interested in other topics. Gotta love her for that.

The other two videos were sent to her but I don't know if she viewed them.

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Michael - Thanks for sharing that. I am a bit delayed in responding and catching-up on the Forum and have set aside a chunk of time to try to do so.

That is so typically Doris - not wanting to watch herself or something that pays a tribute to her.

You may recall that on the Golden Globes in 1989 during the brief series of clips from her films that were played, she kept her head down and refused to look until she heard James Garner's voice talking in a clip. She then looked up and watched him speak about her.

It was never false modesty with regard to watching or listening to praise heaped upon her.

I think that is as much the reason why she turned down an AFI Tribute back in the 80's as well as declining George Stevens Jr.'s request for the Kennedy Center Honors. While she may have used the excuse about not liking to fly, it was mostly a desire to not see and hear a parade of people praise her. To have it done publicly would have been sheer hell for her to go through.

She never really understood the depth and level to which she was able to resonate and that modesty is probably one of the reasons that she always remained natural, real and made it look so easy.

I recall that in May of 1983 when she and Rock were being interviewed by David Hartman as part of that week long tribute, her typical modesty. Rock was telling David about what a great teacher Doris had been when they started working on "Pillow Talk" and Doris immediately gives the credit to Director Michael Gordon.

When I saw her in Carmel in late June of 1983, I praised the "Good Morning America" tribute and told her how deserving it was. She laughed and said, "Oh they were just being sweet and David's such a dear man..."

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This is some trivia I found on Doris' last film With Six You Get Eggroll:

This film title reflects back to a 1964 Doris Day, Rock Hudson movie "Send Me No Flowers", where they reveal how Hudson's character , George, meets Day's character Judy, at a Chinese restaurant. She's dining solo, but by joining his party , they get more selections.

This was the first time Doris Day played a widow with children( I think this is incorrect - I believe Doris was a widow in It Happened to Jane) - a role similar to the character she'd play in her CBS sitcom, The Doris Day Show (1968).

The Grass Roots is the band that performed the song "Feelings" in a nightclub.


It was the film debuts of Barbara Hershey and George Carlin.

The final scenes of this film feature Doris Day teary -eyed wearing a housecoat and slippers. When her husband of 17 years Martin Melcher died suddenly just after production completed , gossip magazines at the time used stills of Day from this movie , looking distraught and out-of-sorts , to accompany their articles about Melcher's death.

Both of the blended films - this and Yours, Mine and Ours (1968)- served as influences for producer Sherwood Schwartz, who would begin production of The Brady Bunch (1969) the following year.

Abbey takes delivery of a wig , which she plans to wear for her dinner party. During the late sixties wigs were quite popular among the upper middle class.
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Something not often mentioned about Doris Day's film With Six You Get Eggroll is the outstanding supporting cast. Many of these actors were on the cusp of stardom.

These actors include George Carlin, Barbara Hershey, Jamie Farr, William Christopher, and Vic Tayback.

Jamie Farr & William Christopher went on to star in the long running TV series M*A*S*H.

Vic Tayback starred in the TV series Alice.


Barbara Hershey went on to star in Last Summer, Heaven With a Gun, The Natural, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Last Temptation of Christ, Beaches, and Paris Trout.


Besides George Carlin's outstanding successful stand -up comedy , he starred in the films Car Wash, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, The Price of Tides, Dogma, and Cars.

With Six You Get Eggroll box office according to Variety grossed $10, 095,200 making it one of the top ten money makers of Doris Day's career.
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With Six You Get Eggroll Review by Roger Ebert

September 4-1968


"A lot of people think Doris Day movies are very simple, but I think they're very complex. Last year everybody was talking about that scene in Antonio I'd Blow-Up -- remember, where David Hemmings- shot the photo and you couldn't tell if there was a murder or not?


Scenes of almost equal complexity abound in "With Six You Get Eggroll ". They're mostly concerned with Doris Day's virtue. Does she or doesn't she? One night Brian Keith- comes over and they sip champagne in front of the fire, turn on the hi-fi, dance, cuddle, smile, fall in love, and then Doris Day opens her front door and Brian Keith- walks out into the pouring rain, which has filled up his convertible.

Doris Day let's Brian Keith-stand there in the rain for a long time, but finally she walks out into the rain and takes his hand , and there's a fade out. Did she invite him to come back into the house, or didn't she? The next scene is ambiguous: It may or may not be the morning after. Well I say it is, but Doris Day fans will say it isn't.

A lot is at stake here. If my interpretation is correct, "With Six you Get Eggroll" represents the first DC o RR is Day movie in which she was pends a night with a man who isn't her husband, ( not counting "Where Were You When the Lights Went Out"?in which both she and the guy were drugged with sleeping pills).

Otherwise, "With Six You Get Eggroll"is a pleasant enough comedy , some good moments,come dull ones, more or less routine. The story involves Doris as a widow with three sons and Brian Keith-as a widower with a daughter. They fall in love , and the kids fight, and the whole movie is about how the kids get to like each other while their parents arrive at mutual understanding.


All of this was done before, better, in "Yours, Mine and Ours", a delightful comedy with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda. "Eggroll" would probably seem funnier if it didn't suffer by comparison.

Brian Keith is, if anything, better than Henry Fonda: He has a quiet, dry wit. But Lucille Ball is an incomparably better comedienne than Doris Day. Lucy has a more cutting edge , a more sharply defined personality. Doris tends to fade away into muted pastels and smiles.

The problem with a movie like this is, you can't honestly say it is bad,. It's not great , but if you like Doris Day in pleasant family comedies with lots of kids and dogs, you could do worse."
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Hi Johnny,

Think that this is one of his better film reviews/nicer reviews about Doris. But it isn't great. I like this film, I think it is one of the most natural films Doris made. Yes there is some comedy, but it's also a film with very believable moments. I love the scene before the fireplace, the scenes in the supermarket and the drive inn. Brian Keith was a believable husband for me. I wish they had done more togehter. The childeren are funny and I recently learned that the artwork in this film was made by one of the childeren who played Doris son.

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I love With Six You Get Eggroll. Here is Doris in 1968 playing a working widow with three children and the head of a construction company. How many females did this job in 1968? There is no reference in Ebert's review.

I think it was unfair for Ebert to compare Lucille Ball and Doris Day. He obviously didn't see the wonderful and interesting 1964 Lucille Ball interview with Doris Day. Lucille is a big fan of Doris. ( You can see it on You Tube)

I am happy to know With Six You Get Eggroll did well at the box office since it was Doris' last film.

The chemistry between Doris and Brian Keith- in the film really was authentic. The kids were great.

Thanks Peter for the new background information on the artwork in the film.
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Roger Ebert had a change of heart in later years, when it comes to Doris. He went so far as to say she was his favorite movie star!
Like Irene Dunne done.

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Thank you Howard. It is always so nice to see your interesting comments on the DD Forum.
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